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Saturday, March 15, 2014

Recycling and Tetra Paks: soft drinks, soup, and stupidity

RJ Pisko, Comment

Stupidity is not a nice word. It’s not politically correct. It’s not polite. I looked for other words to express my feelings about what I have learned about this topic, but none fit my alliterative subtitle for this piece. Stupidity, according to Wikipedia, is a word indicating a lack of intelligence, care or reason. I use the word “stupid” throughout this article in the spirit of this definition. I believe that the intelligence is there, but not the will to use it. Therefore the word as I use it here means lack of care and/or reason. Please keep this in mind as you read. Let me explain my point . . .

Image source: http://www.northrefundcentre.ca/Non%20colect.htm
We are forever being encouraged to “reduce, re-use, recycle”. I attended a weekend forestry seminar at the University of Calgary’s Barrier Lake facility some years ago, and something a presenter said really made sense to me. “Why”, he asked, “does the word ‘recycle’ come at the end of this phrase - why is “recycle” on the bottom of the list? Because it’s the least important of our efforts to reduce waste and preserve resources and energy.” We seem to put much more time, innovation, and effort into recycling than into reducing and re-using. Stupidity, no? I understand that putting a lot of effort into reducing – as in packaging – would no doubt have an effect on the packaging industry, and that effect would certainly trickle down into the packaging material industries such as forestry and oil. Or that argument might be presented. I’d add a lame argument.

This is specifically about the recycling of Tetra Paks, and how containers are identified as recyclable – specifically containers that require a deposit by law, are refundable, and can be shipped to material recovery processing plants for re-use. This is not stupid. But the recycling regulations are established by recycling boards, and sometimes intent gets lost in translation. A couple of years back, for example, I returned a utility trailer load of brown stubby beer bottles – all clearly labeled as an Alberta brand of beer. – I believe the brand was “BEER”. The label avowed that the beer was brewed in Alberta. I was told they weren’t acceptable for refund, that because they might not have been filled in Alberta, that they may not have required a refundable deposit, and no, I couldn’t recycle them in the ordinary glass recycling bin because they were brown, not clear glass. That was stupid, by definition. 

I took my load of unpopular stubbies back home and researched what Alberta’s Beverage Container Management Board had to say about my stubbies’ eligibility for refundable recycling. The BCMB’s website clearly stated that ALL beverage containers originating in Alberta were eligible as refundable – no expiry dates mentioned (stubbies are pretty old, though.) So, following an interesting and entertaining conversation with a new (young) agent with the BCMB about what their website promised and what I was told at the recycling depot, he called my local recycling facility directly. He called me back shortly, and assured me that my treasure trove would be honored as refundable. Back to the very inconvenienced recycling depot, victorious. Not because of the sixty bucks, but because a trailer load of glass was not in the landfill. The sixty bucks didn’t hurt, though. That wasn’t stupid. 

Image source: http://www.packagingdigest.com/aseptic-packaging/fsc-labeled-tetra-pak-packages-now-adopted-53-countrie

Okay, okay – back to Tetra Paks, sometimes called Tetra Briks in Alberta - only Tetra Pak beverage containers require a deposit and are refundable. Not the broth TP containers, though, which are identical in composition and therefore just as recyclable as the beverage containers. Broth, I have argued with the BCMB, is a beverage because I drink it. No, they said, it’s a food. Then so is orange juice as because it’s even thicker in consistency than a broth, I said. No, they said, broth is definitely not a beverage. “Ever try a Bullshot?” I asked. “What’s that?” they asked. “Vodka over ice with beef broth”, I said. The conversation ended. So it stands today; broth is not considered a beverage by the BCMB. As a result tens of thousands – perhaps hundreds of thousands – of Tetra Paks go to the landfill because they are not considered “beverage containers” by the Beverage Container Management Board.

That’s stupid.

After another recent consultation with BCMB, grocery stores, the local recycling facility, Tetra Pak Corporation, and the Alberta Beverage Container Recycling Corporation, here’s the thing: These agencies are telling me that (paraphrased) “It’s up to the soup companies”. The Soup Company (Campbell’s Canada) says it’s up to the other guys. Here are some replies:

Alberta Beverage Container Management Board:

“Hello Bob, and thank you for your inquiry. I apologize if you did not receive an adequate answer to your question previously, but I will try to help you out as best I can now behalf of beverage manufacturers and, as a result, our area of expertise.

In terms of the refundability of containers for soup/broth, I can tell you that at this time (unlike beverage producers) producers of soup and broth have not implemented a province wide recycling program so there is not a specific system in place for recovering these containers. Also, consumers do not pay an initial deposit when they buy soup/broth and therefore there is no refund to provide. “ In terms of the recycling of tetra-brik, I would encourage you to contact your local municipality or the waste management service accountable for your community to gain an understanding of why those items are not generally accepted for recycling.”
My comment: A Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak.

What the Grocery Retail Industry says:

We don’t know who makes the soup in our private label containers. And it doesn’t end there (from a conversation with a Sobeys grocery expert).

Campbell’s Canada : (my only soup contact)


Image source: http://www.campbellsoup.ca/en-ca/products/campbells-broths/

Campbell’s wrote that they are in support of recycling the broth containers, and to contact my local recycling facility. But I was told by BCMB that the “soup company” must apply to the BCMB to register their containers as recyclable.
My comment: A Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak.

What a Google search says:
Since the aseptic packages contain different layers of plastic and aluminium in addition to raw paper, they cannot be recycled as "normal" paper waste, but need to go to special recycling units for separation of the different materials. Tetra Pak has operated limited recycling since the mid-1980s, introducing a recycling program for its cartons in Canada as early as 1990.
Tetra Pak Corporation:

One of the quickest to respond - actually they sent two responses, one of which was the outline of Alberta container recycling policies – more than I got from any Alberta recycling authority. Tetra Pak is of course very supportive of recycling their products, and again it was suggested to contact the local recycling facilities.

Problem: The local recycling facilities aren’t in a position business wise to recycle a refundable container without prior approval or registration or whatever from either the BCMB or the ABCRC. Putting forth a considerable business (financial) effort recycling unregistered containers, for which the recycler cannot recover expenses, is stupid. So, it seems that some pressure must be brought to bear on either of these two agencies – except that the ABCRC hasn’t officially responded to my request for a comment – but maintaining that “it’s up to the government . . .”

So, what’s recyclable and what’s refundable? Recyclables are refundable – but only if marked as refundable , as in “beverages” and dairy “beverage” containers. BUT, identical non-“beverage” containers – OR containers that are not registered in the province (because there was so no deposit paid in Alberta) recyclable but are not recycled because they’re NOT refundable. Except, (but those products from the U.S.A. that are registered with the BCMB are OK) . . . tiresome, no? Stupid, yes?

Non-refundable recyclables like glass jars, cardboard containers, tin cans, plastics (there’s a whole other thing, too – all plastics are not recyclable – like bubble wrap, plastic bags, most Styrofoams – that’s stupid. (Processes are in the works to convert plastic bags to oil. That’s not stupid, should it come to pass.) However – there is NO provision to recycle recyclable but non-refundable Tetra Pak (or Tetra Brik) containers.

That’s stupid. As in lack of care and/or reason.

Image source: http://campaign.tetrapak.com/lifeofapackage/en/recycling/

By the way, 22 kilograms of Tetra Paks can be recycled into a school desk. Other products manufactured from recovered Tetra Pak materials include egg cartons (re-recyclable), plastic flower pots (ditto), toilet tissue (umm – not recyclable), cardboard containers, industrial products and components, and on and on. Like this Brazilian beachfront home made of stone, renewable wood and forest products – and recycled Tetra Paks . . . 

 Photo © Pedro Saito
A Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak is a Tetra Pak . . .

18 comments:

  1. Since you're so concerned, why don't you start a tetra recycling program, and see how profitable it is. You can complain and make a big stink, but you'll do nothing about the actual job when you find out that it will cost you millions that you'll never recoup.
    Also, before you blast your local recycling facility, why don't you ask for a tour and find out exactly why they don't take glass or other products.
    Ignorance is the only thing that wrote this article and I'm angry to have read it.

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    1. "I have no desire or intention to recycle Tetra Paks myself"

      If you're not going to do something about it, then keep this article to yourself. You're not helping anyone, and you're not doing anything to benefit your "cause".

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    2. Also, if you don't like the way something is packaged, shouldn't you put your words to action by not using that product?
      IE: you don't like that broth comes in Tetra containers, so make your own broth.

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    3. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      D.S., I did something about it - I brought it to light, after a three-year long "conversation" with the Board. You have totally missed the point, D.S., and all your sputtering and fuming with stupid responses (please see my use of the word "stupid" in my article) aren't helping your credibility. Tetra Pak recycling facilities do exist, and are making great strides in the recovery technology necessary to make TP's a viable and valuable packaging alternative that proposes minimal environmental impact and maximum consumer convenience, not to mention a substantial contribution to, for example, third world long-term food and beverage storage solutions where refrigeration is often unheard of.. But why do I think you have no clue as to what I'm saying? By the way, thanks for my evening's entertainment . . . goodnight and goodbye.

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  2. Editor interjecting here: Two comments were removed due to violating our policy on acceptable language for this publication. One was a response to the other, and the concern raised by that second comment is duly noted. I apologize for allowing it to slip past me. Debate is encouraged. Civility is also encouraged.

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  3. I'm disappointed that the voice would allow a contributor to submit an article with such negativity. The constant use of the word "stupid" is completely rude, especially when R.J chooses to call a commentor by the same definition. As a teacher, I would hope that he encourages his students to use more tact when debating rather than adhering to online bullying tactics. If you're trying to accomplish something positive, why be so hostile?

    R.J, your method of presenting this information left me with a distaste for your methods. I can appreciate what you're trying to accomplish but I'm simply not a fan of negative journalism. Try a little more honey and a little less vinegar and you might just have some people more eager to join your cause.

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    1. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      "Stupidity is not a nice word. It’s not politically correct. It’s not polite. I looked for other words to express my feelings about what I have learned about this topic, but none fit my alliterative subtitle for this piece. Stupidity, according to Wikipedia, is a word indicating a lack of intelligence, care or reason. I use the word “stupid” throughout this article in the spirit of this definition. I believe that the intelligence is there, but not the will to use it." Did you read the opening paragraph? It's like - you know, a disclaimer, isn't it? Stupidity - it's just a word about which I was very clear how I intended to use it. It's perfectly okay with you, though, that D.S. calls my article ignorance? After having done serious research and interviews? Have ANY of you read ANY of this with ANY idea of what's being said? I am attacking government policy - the discrimination of the political treatment of one product over another, and that's it. You are making something personal of this, based on your comment. Reporting, sometimes, is writing what people want to read. Journalism, sometimes, is writing what they don't want to read. For whatever reason, If you don't get it, I am sorry. The world isn't all sweetness and light. There are minor issues like this that need to be considered; I believe these seemingly innocuous policies reflect the greater problems that modern government-by-corporations bury in red tape. There's nothing positive to be said about unfair and unbalanced government policies.

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    2. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      A reply to my reply - I am confused as to why someone would find a clearly defined, editorial use of a word like "stupid" more offensive than the dumping of tens of thousands of kilograms of otherwise recyclable materials into landfills when a simple change in government recycling policies could change that very quickly - I am at a loss to understand priorities like this . . .

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    3. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      And yet another - you know who I am - be adult enough to let me know who you are - stop hiding behind your initials. If you you feel your opinions have any integrity, so should your identity, D.S., and A.A. Don't you think?

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  4. Anonymous17/3/14

    I cannot trust the ramblings of a man that drinks vodka and broth.Yeeeuck!

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    1. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      Who does that? Like, who would want to? GoodLord, it was part of a conversation with a bureaucrat . . .I read that in a magazine article somewhere - another assumption by someone too quick to judge? And BTW I agree . . . Yeeeuck!

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  5. Anonymous17/3/14

    You're right R.J! It is very "stupid" to value kindness and consideration higher than garbage. Too bad for these naysayers, I'm buying my broth and drinking it too!

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    1. RJ Pisko17/3/14

      I've totally moved from TP broth to a broth mix I found at Costco - a concentrate in a clear glass recyclable jar, if for no other reason than to really try not to be a hypocrite. So yup I drink my broth (a lot of clear broth for medical reasons). But I MUST comment that my grocery industry expert (a friend of ours and also concerned about the lack of consistency in container recycling policies) mentioned that many, many people who purchase broth in Tetra Paks are astounded that they are not considered "recyclable" as are "beverage" containers - my only point in this piece. Not sure where kindness and consideration come in to your comment - unless of course you mean the health of the environment and the future of our children and children's children . . . then I totally agree. If it's being polite about blatantly unfair government policy - nope.

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  6. Anonymous17/3/14

    Maybe instead of calling governments and recycling initiatives Stupid you could travel across North America and see that here in Alberta we have a very advanced and forward thinking government that brings in new deposited and non deposited recyclables every year to be disposed of outside of the landfill. The majority of recyclables get shipped overseas to be processed and turned into your 'tetra homes' so maybe you should write an article to them as in actuality they are the ones that control the recyclable marketplace. It seems to me that ignorance is going both ways here from all the parties writing and commenting on this piece. I for one am proud of the recycling initiatives we have in this community, I travel extensively and brag about the system we have in Pincher Creek. Kudos to the ones that have to put up with our "garbage" in words and in waste management.

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  7. Anonymous18/3/14

    RJ Pisko:

    Please please PLEASE! Re-read my intent of the use of the word "stupid"! I too am proud of Alberta's recycling initiatives - I agree with you 100%, okay? Now - tell me why it's OK to recycle an Orange juice Tetra - Pak but not a chicken broth Tetra Pak! Explain it in whatever terms you like, but tell me why juice paks and broth paks are not treated (environmentally) the same, as they are the same product. That's ALL I'm trying to say . . . If all you can focus on is the word "stupid" then you are missing my point completely. It's not a derogatory term (as used) nor is it racist nor religiously prejudiced. And I have been in contact - directly - with Tetra Pak (unless you missed that in the article) and lauded them for being probably the most concerned about the recycling of their products. For God's sake people READ THE ARTICLE - ALL of it, before you pop off and take nearly everything out of context . . . and embarrass yourselves further . . . by the way enjoy your extensive travels . . my goodness, can't ANYONE read more than one word at a time?

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  8. Brenda Ulmer18/3/14

    OMG!!! I've just read the comments on this article. “A tempest in a teapot” - by definition by Wikipedia is as follows, “Tempest in a teapot (American English), or storm in a teacup (British English), is an idiom meaning a small event that has been exaggerated out of proportion.” Mr. Pisko wrote an editorial that gave his opinion – again the definition by Wikipedia, “An editorial, leading article (UK) or leader (UK), is an opinion piece … major United States newspapers, such as the New York Times[1] and the Boston Globe,[2] editorials are often classified under the heading "opinion". If the word “Stupid” or “Stupidity” can create such a controversy, just imagine what the words “war”, “cheat”, or “liar” could do.

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  9. Doug Popp18/3/14

    Maybe the issue here is the degree with which people quote Wikipedia? Did you know that it is one of the most unreliable sources on the internet? I think I'll stick with Websters for my defining moments. I enjoyed the article by the way...I disagree with you but it provided a good debate none-the-less.

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  10. One former cog in the recycling machine18/3/14

    It is true that all containers that are made of the same product should be able to be recycled - "a tetra pak is a tetra pak is a tetra pak". However, this is not an issue that your local recycling facility is going to have any ability to change. Your local facility is an arm of ABCRC and the BCMB which means they can only do what they are told. Each local facility has access to an online database of what is "acceptable" and what is not. When you mentioned the "stubbies", it is likely that these were nowhere to be found on the aforementioned database. The bottle depot can only pay for product that they will receive payment for. If a depot accepts a product (like broth tetra paks), they will receive NO payment for that even though they pay the customer .10 or .25 to take it. The depot will actually be fined for accepting products that aren't on the list and scrutinized for doing so.

    It's not a perfect system, that is beyond obvious. There are countless people that choose to pitch a fit at the local centers when they are told a product cannot be accepted. This is stupid, by definition. The depots are nothing more than a specialized pawn shop. They only pay for items with value. To truly address this issue, stick it to the big guns. Leave the little people out of this. The local facilities are the stop on the track and made up of people trying to simply make a living. The soup companies, the tetra pak manufacturers, ABCRC and the BCMB are all equally responsible in making this change. In the end, it all boils down to $$ and you can't blame them. That's the way it's always been. Until someone views it as profitable, we are unlikely to see change. It's "stupid", but that's just how it is.

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